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  • Reconsider... Rotator Cuff Rehab with Bill Hartman | Episode #42
    Jul 28 2024
    Join Bill’s UHP Network Today http://UHPnetwork.mn.co The conversation starts by discussing the importance of understanding the individual and their specific needs when it comes to shoulder stability and rehabilitation. It highlights the limitations of following a protocol-based approach and emphasizes the need to consider relative motions and shape changes in order to optimize force production and movement. The conversation also touches on the relationship between health and performance, noting that while certain compensatory strategies may enhance performance in the short term, they can lead to long-term issues and injuries. The conversation explores the concept of performance and the trade-offs that come with it. It discusses how athletes adapt their bodies to optimize performance in their specific sport, even if it means developing physical characteristics that may seem unusual or detrimental. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of considering the long-term consequences of training methods and the need for a principle-based approach to training. Keywords #shoulderstability, #rehabilitation, individual needs, protocol-based approach, relative motions, shape changes, force production, #movement, #health, #physicaltherapy , compensatory strategies, injuries, performance, adaptation, trade-offs, training methods, principle-based approach Takeaways Understanding the individual and their specific needs is crucial in shoulder stability and rehabilitation. Following a protocol-based approach may not be effective as it fails to consider the individual's unique circumstances. Optimizing force production and movement requires considering relative motions and shape changes. Compensatory strategies may enhance performance in the short term but can lead to long-term issues and injuries. The relationship between health and performance is a delicate balance, and both need to be considered in training and rehabilitation. Athletes often adapt their bodies to optimize performance in their specific sport, even if it means developing physical characteristics that may seem unusual or detrimental. It is important to consider the long-term consequences of training methods and the trade-offs involved in pursuing maximum performance. A principle-based approach to training allows for flexibility and decision-making based on individual needs and goals. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 03:11 The Limitations of Strength Solutions 07:38 Reframing Rotator Cuff Strengthening 09:58 Creating Favorable Shape Changes 14:53 The Health and Performance Continuum 18:05 Performance Adaptations and Consequences 22:52 The Trade-Off Between Performance and Long-Term Health 24:59 Considerations for Long-Term Consequences in Training Methods 27:47 Nostalgic Favorite: TV Dinners LEARN MORE JOIN the UHP Network to learn directly from Bill and join in on LIVE calls with Bill weekly https://uhpnetwork.mn.co/ FOLLOW Bill on IG to stay up to date on when his courses are coming out: IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ TRAIN WITH BILL Interested in the only training program based on Bill Hartman’s Model? Join the rapidly growing community who are reconstructing their bodies at https://www.reconu.co FREE EBOOK by Bill about the guiding principles of training when you fill out your sign-up form. http://www.reconu.co SUBSCRIBE for even more helpful content: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BillHartmanPT IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/BillHartmanPT WEB: https://billhartmanpt.com/ Podcast audio: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221 or download with YT Premium Reconsider… is sponsored by Substance Nutrition https://substancenutrition.com/ A healthy brain requires a healthy body. Why not take care of both all at once by using Synthesis protein and Neuro Coffee? Use code RECON at checkout to get free shipping on all of your orders
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    43 min
  • Reconsider… Episode 41 - The Complexity of Simple Solutions
    Jul 14 2024

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    Reconsider… Episode 41 - The Complexity of Simple Solutions

    In this conversation, Chris and Bill discuss the complexity of simple solutions in addressing discomfort and pain. They highlight the importance of understanding the underlying mechanics and compensatory strategies involved in different situations. They emphasize the need for individualized approaches and the potential pitfalls of generalized solutions. They also touch on the impact of compensatory strategies on the body, such as hernias and postural changes. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about favorite Brady Bunch episodes.

    Keywords

    #simplesolutions, discomfort, #pain, mechanics, #compensatorystrategies, individualized approaches, generalized solutions, #hernias, #posturalchanges, Brady Bunch, #physicaltherapy

    Takeaways

    Simple solutions may appear straightforward, but they require a deep understanding of the underlying mechanics and compensatory strategies involved.

    Individualized approaches are crucial in addressing discomfort and pain, as different people may have different compensatory strategies and limitations.

    Generalized solutions may work for some individuals, but they may not be effective or appropriate for everyone.

    Compensatory strategies can have long-term consequences, such as hernias and postural changes.

    Favorite Brady Bunch episodes can be a fun topic of conversation!

    Sound Bites

    "Simple solutions, they're simple in representation, not simple in the actual understanding the solution."

    "Two different archetypes can produce a similar outcome, but they're going to go through the same phases of propulsion."

    "Favorable results by symptom doesn't necessarily mean it was the intended solution."

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Simple Solutions

    14:42 Understanding Representations and Compensatory Strategies

    19:19 Differentiating Favorable and Unfavorable Outcomes

    26:36 The Potential Pitfalls of Compensatory Strategies

    33:59 Maintaining a Strong Base of Support

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    Podcast audio:

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    39 min
  • Reconsider... Optimal Foam Rolling Techniques with Bill Hartman | Episode #40
    Jun 30 2024
    Join Bill’s UHP Network Today http://UHPnetwork.mn.co In this episode, Bill and Chris discuss foam rolling techniques and the factors that influence its effectiveness. They emphasize the importance of using the right tool, direction, speed, and pressure to achieve the desired outcomes. They also highlight the significance of sequencing the foam rolling exercises based on the specific muscle and bony bends. The conversation provides valuable insights into optimizing foam rolling techniques for different purposes. The conversation discusses the sequencing and orientation of foam rolling for different body archetypes. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the directionality and turn of the spine in order to achieve the desired effects. The wide and narrow archetypes require different approaches to foam rolling, with the wide archetype needing a more vertical roll to create a wider turn on the helix. The conversation also touches on the need to adjust the angle of the foam roller based on the specific body segment being rolled. Keywords #foamrolling, #physicaltherapy, #selfmassage, #athomeworkout, #strengthandconditioning techniques, tool, direction, speed, pressure, sequencing, muscle, bony bends, foam roll sequencing, orientation, body archetypes, directionality, turn of the spine Takeaways Foam rolling techniques should consider the size and shape of the implement used, as well as the depth and focal nature of the pressure applied. The direction of foam rolling should align with the intended energy transfer, whether it is absorbing energy from the ground or delivering it to the ground. The speed of foam rolling affects the depth and magnitude of the effect, with slower rolls promoting greater shape change and transfer potential of energy. Sequencing foam rolling exercises should be based on the influence of muscles on bony bends, with different orders for wide and narrow archetypes. Consistency and coherence in foam rolling techniques lead to more successful outcomes. Foam rolling should be sequenced and oriented differently for wide and narrow body archetypes. The wide archetype requires a more vertical roll to create a wider turn on the helix. The angle of the foam roller should be adjusted based on the specific body segment being rolled. Understanding the directionality and turn of the spine is crucial for effective foam rolling. Sound Bites "Speed matters, direction matters, pressure matters, object size matters." "The faster you roll, the more superficial the effect." "The VL will still have more eccentric orientation proximally, more concentric orientation distally." "Yes, acquisition is acquisition of the accumulation of the ability to capture the right foot. That's essentially what you're doing, right?” "Yeah, it's like manual therapies, manual therapies that don't respect the directionality. This is one of the reasons why you could be making a great decision in regards to concept, but the application of the method that leaves you hanging because like you had this perfect intention, like everything was right as far as your decision making, your intention, and then you use the technique." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:23 Exploring Foam Rolling Techniques 06:53 Factors Influencing Foam Rolling Effectiveness 10:49 The Role of Size and Type of Implement 13:36 Understanding the Directionality of Foam Rolling 15:59 Sequencing Muscle Influence in Foam Rolling 20:47 Influence of Eccentric and Concentric Orientation 22:55 Understanding Foam Rolling 25:42 Sequencing for Different Archetypes 28:42 Considering Compressed Representation 30:37 Perpendicular Orientation with the Roller 32:55 Creating Turn on the Helix 35:08 Guessing Bill Hartman's Hogwarts House LEARN MORE JOIN the UHP Network to learn directly from Bill and join in on LIVE calls with Bill weekly https://uhpnetwork.mn.co/ FOLLOW Bill on IG to stay up to date on when his courses are coming out: IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ TRAIN WITH BILL Interested in the only training program based on Bill Hartman’s Model? Join the rapidly growing community who are reconstructing their bodies at https://www.reconu.co FREE EBOOK by Bill about the guiding principles of training when you fill out your sign-up form. http://www.reconu.co SUBSCRIBE for even more helpful content: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BillHartmanPT IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/BillHartmanPT WEB: https://billhartmanpt.com/ Podcast audio: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221 or download with YT Premium Reconsider… is sponsored by Substance Nutrition https://substancenutrition.com/ A healthy brain requires a healthy body. Why not take care of both all at once by using Synthesis protein and Neuro Coffee? Use code RECON at ...
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    35 min
  • Reconsider... Hypermobility, Scoliosis & The Rules with Bill Hartman | Episode #39
    Jun 16 2024

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    Summary

    In this episode, Bill and Chris discuss the misconceptions and limitations of certain diagnoses, such as scoliosis and hypermobility. They emphasize that these conditions can often be understood within the framework of normal variations in structure and movement. They highlight the importance of understanding the rules and principles that govern human movement and avoiding overly reductionist perspectives. The conversation also touches on the adaptations seen in ballerinas and gymnasts, as well as the role of bony adaptations in performance. The conversation explores the idea that exceptions to rules in the human body may not actually be exceptions, but rather a result of an incomplete model or interpretation. They discuss how certain measurements and diagnoses can change rapidly with simple interventions, challenging the traditional understanding of structural adaptations. They emphasize the importance of questioning and curiosity in the field of physical therapy, and the need to constantly seek new information and perspectives. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about favorite breakfast cereals.

    Keywords

    #scoliosis, #hypermobility, #physicaltherapy, diagnoses, structure, movement, adaptations, rules, principles, ballerinas, gymnasts, #bonyadaptations, performance, exceptions, rules, human body, measurements, diagnoses, #structuraladaptations, questioning, curiosity, , information, perspectives, breakfast cereals

    Takeaways

    Many diagnoses, such as scoliosis and hypermobility, can be understood within the framework of normal variations in structure and movement.

    It is important to understand the rules and principles that govern human movement and avoid overly reductionist perspectives.

    Adaptations seen in ballerinas and gymnasts are often intentional and specific to their performance requirements.

    Bony adaptations can play a role in performance and may allow for extreme ranges of motion.

    The key is to have a comprehensive understanding of the individual's structure and movement patterns to guide interventions effectively. Exceptions to rules in the human body may be a result of an incomplete model or interpretation.

    Measurements and diagnoses can change rapidly with simple interventions, challenging traditional understanding of structural adaptations.

    Questioning and curiosity are essential in the field of physical therapy to constantly seek new information and perspectives.

    Favorite breakfast cereals can evoke nostalgia and personal preferences.

    Sound Bites

    "These things might actually be within the rules of that person given their structure."

    "It doesn't change the rules. You just have to understand what contributes."

    "Maybe the model you're using is just incomplete and these aren't actually exceptions to rules."

    "How did you somehow cure laxity? It's like, no. So what is the reasoning behind that? It's like, well, there was something wrong with my interpretation of the first measure."

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction and Promotional Period

    06:57 The Importance of Rules and Principles in Human Movement

    13:56 Adaptations in Ballerinas and Gymnasts: Performance Requirements

    20:42 Guiding Interventions: Comprehensive Understanding of Structure and Movement

    23:34 Rethinking Exceptions to Rules

    26:01 The Importance of Questioning and Curiosity in Physical Therapy

    29:46 Nostalgia and Personal Preferences: Favorite Breakfast Cereals

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    36 min
  • Reconsider... Rolling Patterns with Bill Hartman | Episode #38
    Jun 2 2024
    This episode delves into the topic of rolling and body awareness techniques. It explores traditional representations of segmental rolling and the actual physiological processes involved. The discussion also addresses the importance of shape change, ground contact, and internal dynamics in rolling activities, and how they relate to movement and injury prevention. The conversation gets into the biomechanics of rolling and its application in movement and performance. It explores the different types of rolling, their purpose, and their diagnostic significance. The discussion also touches on the relationship between body structure, athletic performance, and the selection of sports. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted exchange about favorite Saturday morning cartoons. Keywords UHP Plus, membership subscription, rolling, body awareness, segmental rolling, physiological processes, shape change, ground contact, internal dynamics, movement, injury prevention, biomechanics, rolling, movement, performance, body structure, athletic performance, sports selection, Saturday morning cartoons Takeaways The launch of UHP Plus, the membership subscription version of the UHP network. The conversation explores traditional representations of segmental rolling and the actual physiological processes involved, emphasizing the importance of shape change, ground contact, and internal dynamics in rolling activities. The discussion highlights the relevance of rolling techniques in movement and injury prevention, providing insights into the relationship between rolling, ground contact, and shape change. Understanding the biomechanics of rolling and its application in movement and performance. The diagnostic significance of different types of rolling in assessing movement deficits. The relationship between body structure, athletic performance, and the selection of sports. Saturday morning cartoons were awesome. Sound Bites "We're gonna talk about...rolling and different types of body awareness, body mapping techniques." "It is somewhat useful as a descriptor. It's kind of like looking at joints as levers. It's like, is it useful as a descriptor? It helps us create a picture, but is it accurate? Probably not." "When we talk about movement, we talk about shape changes. And a lot of situations arise." "We're talking about rolling. Typically people think of rolling, they think of side lying long axis rolling. What is that? If we could write down what that is seeking to accomplish, like what are the main things that we're trying to go after with a long axis rolling." "So backwards would be an inhalation bias and then forwards over shoulders is gonna be an exhalation bias. So keep that in mind, okay? Now, if I was to lie on my back and I'm gonna drive a long diagonal roll, now I'm actually using the extremity to drive the axial skeleton." LEARN MORE JOIN the UHP Network to learn directly from Bill and join in on LIVE calls with Bill weekly https://uhpnetwork.mn.co/ FOLLOW Bill on IG to stay up to date on when his courses are coming out: IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ TRAIN WITH BILL Interested in the only training program based on Bill Hartman’s Model? Join the rapidly growing community who are reconstructing their bodies at https://www.reconu.co FREE EBOOK by Bill about the guiding principles of training when you fill out your sign-up form. http://www.reconu.co SUBSCRIBE for even more helpful content: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BillHartmanPT IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/BillHartmanPT WEB: https://billhartmanpt.com/ Podcast audio: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221 or download with YT Premium Reconsider… is sponsored by Substance Nutrition https://substancenutrition.com/ A healthy brain requires a healthy body. Why not take care of both all at once by using Synthesis protein and Neuro Coffee? Use code RECON at checkout to get free shipping on all of your orders
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    40 min
  • Reconsider... Exercise Selection Strategies with Bill Hartman | Episode #37
    May 19 2024

    In this episode, Chris and Bill discuss the importance of understanding starting conditions and recognizing strategies in exercise selection. They emphasize the need for a comprehensive model that allows for individualized programming and the avoidance of negative consequences. They also highlight the iterative process and the investment of experience as key components in developing expertise. The conversation touches on the UHP network, the decision-making course, and the upcoming Golden Age Batman animated TV show.

    #exerciseselection #UHPnetwork #BillhartmanPT #Strengthandconditioning #physicaltherapy

    TAKEAWAYS

    Understanding starting conditions and recognizing strategies are crucial in exercise selection.

    A comprehensive model allows for individualized programming and the avoidance of negative consequences.

    The iterative process and the investment of experience are key in developing expertise.

    The UHP network and the decision-making course provide valuable resources for learning and implementing these concepts.

    The upcoming Golden Age Batman animated TV show is an exciting development for fans.

    SOUND BITES

    "Understanding starting conditions and recognizing strategies"

    "The iterative process and the investment of experience"

    "The importance of a comprehensive model for individualized programming"

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    Podcast audio:

    https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221

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    34 min
  • RECONsider... Simplifying The UHPC Model with Bill Hartman | Episode #36
    May 5 2024

    This episode revolves around the idea of simplifying the UHPC model and how to effectively communicate its principles to others. The hosts discuss the importance of making the model their own and understanding the underlying principles rather than just following a set of rules. They emphasize the need for a coherent framework that allows for a deeper understanding and better problem-solving. They also highlight the importance of finding the right audience for introducing the model and addressing their specific struggles. The conversation concludes with the recognition that everyone has good and bad days and that continuous learning and growth are essential.

    Takeaways

    Simplifying the UHPC model involves understanding the underlying principles and applying them in a coherent framework.

    The model should be introduced to individuals who are open to change and looking for better solutions to their struggles.

    Continuous learning and growth are essential in refining and applying the model effectively.

    Everyone has good and bad days, and it's important to recognize that learning and improvement are ongoing processes.

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    Podcast audio:

    https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221

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    30 min
  • Reconsider... Assymetries, Dynamics, & Scientific Validation of UHPC with Bill Hartman | Episode #35
    Apr 21 2024

    In this Q&A episode, Chris and Bill answer questions from their community. They discuss the creation of their own social network, the UHP network, as a response to the limitations and algorithmic nature of mainstream social media platforms. They also explore the concept of asymmetrical presentations and the reasons behind them, as well as the effectiveness of dynamic movements like dancing and Tai Chi in managing compression strategies. They address the need for scientific validation of the model and the importance of understanding foundational principles rather than getting caught up in specific models or egos.

    Keywords

    Q&A, social network, UHP network, asymmetrical presentations, compression strategies, dynamic movements, scientific validation, foundational principles

    Takeaways

    Creating a specialized social network can provide a more focused and meaningful community experience.

    Asymmetrical presentations are often a result of managing asymmetrical internal forces with a relatively symmetrical external system.

    Dynamic movements like dancing and Tai Chi can help manage compression strategies and provide relief from certain restrictions.

    Scientific validation of the model is based on a combination of existing research studies and the practical application of principles in the purple room.

    Understanding foundational principles is more important than getting caught up in specific models or egos.

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    Podcast audio:

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    26 min