Voices said, "Welcome Back, We're So Glad You're Home."

At 26 years old and eight months pregnant, psychotherapist Deborah “Deb” Hanie survived a head-on collision that triggered a profound near-death experience (NDE).

Instead of a tunnel of light, Deb describes entering “the void”—a dark, peaceful expanse filled with loving, luminous beings who told her she could stay or return because she “had a baby.”

Choosing to come back meant waking to excruciating pain and a difficult recovery, but it also opened a spiritual path: work with Stanislav Grof’s ideas, shamanic training, and hospice “journeying” with people at the end of life.

Deb shares how her son carried prenatal trauma, why the return can be harsher than the leaving, and two extraordinary deathbed stories—including her scientist father’s passing, escorted by a circle of elephants into the light.

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He now has ZERO fear of death: "It's like walking through a door into another room." Ned shares his NDE experience publicly for the first time.

When a stubborn bladder infection spiraled into sepsis, Ned Barnett flatlined twice in the ER. During his near death experience, he lived three vivid, sequential “lives”:

NDE #1 - Tranquil, dove-gray creative realm where ideas were built and freely shared;

NDE #2 - An ordinary, domestic life that quietly corrected priorities;

NDE #3 - A hyper-real action life as a hostage negotiator and rescue-show producer leading SWAT-style interventions.

On “re-entry,” Ned realized the “hotel” with stark black-and-white ceiling panels was actually the ICU—and his overwhelming drive was simply to call his wife and tell her he was okay.

The NDE completely erased his fear of death, redirected his career toward helping authors, and deepened his Christian faith. He closes with gentle advice for listeners in pain: simple prayers, the Psalms, and the reminder that what we are continues.

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In this moving conversation, Shanna Arnold recounts her journey from a promising high school athlete to a survivor of a horrific rollover accident that claimed her best friend’s life, briefly ended her own, and resulted in a near death experience she would never forget.

She describes being ejected 150 feet from the vehicle, pronounced dead, and revived after her heart stopped. During that time, she experienced what she believes to be a glimpse of the afterlife, an NDE Experience —walking with her best friend in a dark space, exchanging tearful hugs and promises to meet again.

Her recovery was long and grueling—months in a coma, over a year in rehab, and relearning everything from reading to walking. Yet Shanna went on to graduate with honors, raise two daughters, and live with a deepened faith and gratitude. Her near death experience left her with a new perspective on mortality: not fearing death but seeing it as a reunion with loved ones.

She encourages listeners to approach others with compassion, knowing that everyone carries unseen battles, and to give thanks for the blessings and talents God provides.

This episode (and her NDE) is a reminder that life is fragile, death is not the end, and love carries beyond this world.

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