In a lively conversation with ultrarunner and former saxophonist Chadd Cosse, few parallels are found between long distance running and playing basketball. During discussion about training for Cocodona while living in New York City, a new variation of the Manhattan Loop FKT is established.

The accomplished bassist and runner Bobby Daniel joins as Special Guest and talks music and running with hosts Dave and Trevor. Celebrations, a big Western States race preview, and self-referential comments are mixed with occasionally poignant moments. Listener Dan receives a special request.

Ultrarunner and Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan Jeff Colt joins as Special Guest and describes a naked Hut Traverse FKT attempt and his experience beating an apparition of David Hedges at UTMB. The hosts power through a gritty Race Recap, Book Club, and Song of the Week. Popular Runner Jim Pergolizzi receives confirmation that the owl he hallucinated was actually real. Another cliffhanger is introduced.

Towards the end of a fun conversation, the hosts and this week’s Special Guest, the runner and musician Sam Allen, still wonder whether the actual podcasting is happening yet. A live race update pertaining to another Special Guest hits the mailbag.

A great week of running transpires with both distance and gardening achievements to celebrate. In the Song of the Week segment, two running songs by one band are compared. Moments of vulnerability emerge.

Alejandro Escovedo joins as Special Guest and shares stories about running and music, from Italian trails to AC/DC fartleks. Conversation wends its way into a very special Gear Shed. Trevor regrets disparaging the dear listener.

Special Guest Eva Houston follows her recent Boston Marathon finish with a conversation with Dave and Trevor about the race, thoughts on inclusion in sport, and an impromptu Song of the Week. Parallels are drawn between David Bowie and Tatyana McFadden.

An overflowing mailbag yields briar patches and obscure Argentinian music recommendations. The hosts share stories about talking about running amidst intermittent references to both running and the podcast itself.