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  • 88. Is It Really ODD? Understanding What's Beneath the Behavior
    Feb 26 2025

    In this episode of the Therapist Thrival Guide, join Miranda, a licensed clinical social worker, alongside Letisha and Gina, as they candidly discuss Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD).

    The discussion covers the DSM-5 criteria for ODD, its symptoms, and the stigma associated with the diagnosis. They explore alternative diagnoses, underlying issues like trauma, ADHD, and autism, and talk about effective treatment strategies including parent management training and cognitive-behavioral therapy.

    The conversation also emphasizes the importance of seeing each child through a fresh and unbiased lens.

    Timestamps:

    02:32 Symptoms and Diagnostic Criteria of ODD

    05:02 Challenges and Controversies in Diagnosing ODD

    06:01 Personal Experiences and Case Studies

    08:49 The Impact of Labels and Diagnoses on Children

    21:59 Differential Diagnoses and Overlapping Conditions

    23:42 Understanding ODD and ADHD Differences

    24:09 Trauma and Its Impact on ODD

    25:15 Foster Care and ODD Diagnoses

    28:49 Mood Disorders and Autism in Relation to ODD

    31:19 The Unique Aspect of Vindictiveness in ODD

    34:06 Challenges in Diagnosing and Treating ODD

    38:02 Effective Strategies for Managing ODD

    44:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of thriving by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you!

    This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise to help us learn how to thrive as therapists.

    Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    46 min
  • 87. DBT for New Clinicians: Mastering Dialectical Behavioral Therapy with Shelby Finley
    Feb 19 2025

    This week we are joined by Shelby Finley, a Clinic Director for Ellie Mental Health in Kansas City. Shelby shares her expertise on Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT), a modality that is especially useful for newer clinicians.

    The conversation covers the foundational components of DBT, including mindfulness, distress tolerance, interpersonal effectiveness, and emotional regulation. Shelby explains why DBT is beneficial for new therapists and how it can be applied to various diagnoses beyond Borderline Personality Disorder.

    The episode also explores practical skills like TIPP (Temperature change, Intense exercise, Paced breathing, and Progressive muscle relaxation) and the importance of recognizing and managing emotions for effective therapy. Miranda and Shelby discuss the integration of DBT with other therapeutic modalities and the transformative impacts it can have on both clients and therapists. Tune in to learn how you can implement these DBT strategies into your practice.


    LINKS:

    Marsha Linehan's book: https://amzn.to/4hJmvVH

    PMR Recording: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7jTsJbdEh7SOR0OOwnORBP?si=3809c5b2cb5e4439


    00:16 Meet Shelby Finley: Clinic Director and Therapist

    00:58 Why DBT is Essential for New Clinicians

    03:58 The Foundations of DBT

    06:16 Applying DBT Skills in Therapy

    12:29 Distress Tolerance: Handling Crisis Moments

    13:19 The TIPP Skill: Temperature, Intense Exercise, and More

    19:35 Progressive Muscle Relaxation and Paced Breathing

    24:54 Practicing Skills in Therapy

    26:44 Interpersonal Effectiveness

    34:48 Emotional Regulation and Wise Mind

    38:47 Integrating EMDR with DBT

    42:09 Resources and Training for DBT

    45:59 Conclusion and Future Discussions


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you!

    This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.
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    Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    47 min
  • 86. Group Supervision: Creative Ways to Mix Up Consult Time (Part 2)
    Feb 12 2025

    This second episode of a two-part series features Karna Boynton, LMFT and Gina Young, LICSW, both board-approved supervisors. We're talking about how to structure group supervision, some creative ideas for your groups, and how to be a kick-@$% group supervisor!


    00:00 Introduction to Group Supervision Series

    00:52 Common Group Ruptures and Attendance Policies

    07:12 Introducing New Group Members

    11:11 Managing External Distractions and Humor in Groups

    16:16 Enhancing Group Supervision with Creative Resources

    18:53 Diverse Learning Methods in Group Supervision

    20:34 Test Preparation and Continuous Learning

    27:22 Flexibility and Continuous Improvement in Group Supervision

    28:11 Sharing Training Experiences

    28:23 Creative Self-Care Ideas for Therapists

    29:17 Feedback and Evaluation in Group Sessions

    30:09 Structuring Group Consultations

    31:00 Creating and Sharing Agendas

    33:54 Welcoming New Group Members

    35:12 Establishing Group Norms

    36:35 Identifying Group Goals

    37:26 Brainstorming Topics and Content

    38:13 Effective Case Consultations

    46:05 Documenting Group Sessions

    49:36 Best Practices for Virtual Groups

    51:28 Handling Challenging Group Members

    53:51 Q&A and Conclusion


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you!

    This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care. The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#mentalhealth

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    55 min
  • 85. Group Supervision: Myths, Benefits, and Best Practices as a Supervisor (Part 1)
    Feb 5 2025

    This first of a two-part series features Karna Boynton, LMFT and Gina Young, LICSW, both board-approved supervisors, who jump into the theory, benefits, dynamics, and common myths about group supervision.... and how you can be a kick-@$& group supervisor!

    Learn how group settings can enhance clinical skills, reduce isolation, and improve personal well-being. Discover practical tips for managing group cohesion, addressing ruptures, and understanding legal and ethical considerations.

    Tune in next week for part two!

    00:37 Meet Your Presenters: Karna and Gina

    01:24 Learning Objectives and Common Myths

    03:42 Group Dynamics and Time Management

    16:39 The Benefits of Group Supervision

    22:52 Enhancing Presentation Skills Through Group Work

    24:56 The Importance of Group Cohesion

    26:28 Creating a Brave Space for Authenticity

    27:17 Fostering Equitable Group Dynamics

    27:58 Addressing Ruptures and Repairs in Groups

    29:50 Supervisors' Role in Group Dynamics

    33:14 Building on Individual and Collective Strengths

    36:50 Conclusion and Next Steps

    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you!

    This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care. The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#mentalhealth

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    40 min
  • 84. Borderline Personality Disorder & Complex Trauma: Navigating Diagnosis and Treatment
    Jan 29 2025

    In this episode of the Therapist Thrival Guide, we are diving into the complexities of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and complex trauma (C-PTSD). We're discussing the stigma surrounding BPD, the challenges clinicians face in diagnosing and treating it, and the overlap with complex PTSD.

    Kielyr Luthi, LICSW, PMH-C, R-PLC explains her approach to treatment, emphasizing trauma-informed care and discussing various therapeutic modalities such as EMDR, brain spotting, and trauma-focused CBT (TF-CBT).

    The conversation also covers the importance of treating symptoms over labels and the benefits of certain diagnoses. Essential listening for clinicians and anyone interested in understanding BPD and complex trauma.


    GUEST BIO:

    Kielyr Luthi, MSW, LICSW, PMH-C, R-PLC is a group private practice owner licensed in several states. She specializes in perinatal mental health and trauma. She is an EMDR trainer and certified in several evidence-based trauma treatment modalities. Her passions include supporting individuals overcome childhood trauma, supporting parents through new life transitions, and supporting with pregnancy and postpartum.


    00:48 Understanding Borderline Personality Disorder and Complex Trauma

    04:33 Symptoms and Traits of Borderline Personality Disorder

    09:04 Differentiating BPD from Complex PTSD

    13:05 Exploring Trauma-Focused Modalities

    21:30 Challenges in Diagnosing and Treating BPD

    33:26 The Importance of Accurate Diagnoses

    40:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's still a bit new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care. The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#mentalhealth

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    42 min
  • 83. Narcissism, Co-Parenting, and Therapy with Erin Pash
    Jan 22 2025

    Join Miranda Barker, LICSW, and Erin Pash, LMFT, the CEO and founder of Ellie Mental Health, as they delve into the complex topic of narcissism.

    They discuss the clinical aspects, treatment approaches, and challenges therapists face when working with narcissistic clients. Drawing from personal experiences and cases, they also explore the dynamics of high-conflict co-parenting and provide insights on recognizing narcissistic traits.

    This episode is a quick guide for mental health professionals seeking to understand and navigate the intricacies of narcissistic behavior in therapeutic settings. 00:20 Understanding Narcissism: Common Misconceptions 01:11 Narcissism in High Conflict Co-Parenting 05:59 Clinical Symptoms of Narcissism 09:01 Covert vs. Overt Narcissism 10:19 Gender Differences in Narcissism 13:04 Narcissism in Couples Therapy 23:25 Therapists' Strategies for Handling Narcissistic Clients 28:46 Working with a Manipulative Parent 33:23 Therapist's Role in High Conflict Cases 33:48 Parental Accountability and Personal Values 42:34 Therapist's Perspective on Narcissistic Clients 50:38 Concluding Thoughts

    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.

    The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    53 min
  • 82. Dance Movement Therapy
    Jan 15 2025

    We are joined by dance movement therapist Shelby Turner, RMHCI from Ellie Mental Health- St. Petersburg, FL!

    In this episode, Shelby talks about her unique qualification in dance movement therapy, how she integrates this approach with psychotherapy, and the impact it has on her clients. She also shares her personal journey into the profession and elaborates on various techniques used in dance movement therapy, catering to diverse age groups and mental health challenges.

    Tune in to learn about the fascinating world of dance movement therapy and how it can be a powerful tool for emotional and psychological healing!

    Timestamps:

    00:15 Meet Shelby: A Dance Movement Therapist

    04:00 Shelby's Personal Journey and Inspiration

    07:01 Understanding Dance Movement Therapy

    09:14 Practical Applications and Client Experiences

    17:26 Role of Music in Dance Movement Therapy

    20:01 Free Flow vs. Choreographed Dance Therapy

    21:29 Therapist's Role in Dance Movement Therapy

    22:26 Mirroring and Trauma in Dance Therapy

    23:42 Body Mapping Techniques

    26:18 Client Demographics and Adaptability

    30:42 Group Dance Movement Therapy

    34:28 Advice for Therapists Incorporating Dance

    40:26 The Evolving Field of Dance Movement Therapy


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.

    The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    40 min
  • 81. Everyone Can Use Motivational Interviewing
    Jan 8 2025

    In this episode of Therapist Thrival Guide, host Miranda, a licensed clinical social worker, is joined by Dr. Sara Polley, Chief Medical Officer at Ellie Mental Health and a psychiatrist specialized in addiction medicine.

    The duo discuss the principles and practices of Motivational Interviewing (MI), a therapeutic style aimed at evoking change talk and addressing ambivalence in clients. They explore the history, key concepts, and practical applications of MI.

    The conversation includes:

    • The OARS technique (Open-ended questions, Affirmations, Reflections, Summaries)
    • Identifying change talk versus sustain talk
    • Aligning therapeutic goals with client values


    Practical tips and real-life examples are shared to help clinicians incorporate MI into their practice effectively.

    Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 02:42 Motivational Interviewing Overview 05:21 Practical Applications and Examples 07:07 The Spirit of Motivational Interviewing 16:19 Skills and Techniques in Motivational Interviewing 26:00 Understanding Anhedonia and Open-Ended Questions 27:49 Affirmations: Challenges and Examples 33:32 Reflections: Simple, Complex, and Amplified 37:11 Summarizing: Crafting the Perfect Bouquet 41:30 Exploring Ambivalence and Change Talk 43:22 Tools and Techniques: Change Ruler and Value Sort Cards 45:41 Engagement and Focusing in MI 49:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast by Ellie Mental Health. We want to move therapists beyond surviving and into the realm of THRIVING by covering all the things that graduate school didn't teach you! This mental health podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW and a rotating cast of seasoned therapists. Each episode features a therapist speaking to their areas of expertise, clinical interests, and personal experiences of being a therapist. This podcast will be covering topics like burn-out, self of therapist, cultural considerations, client retention, session structure, advancing clinical skills, innovations in therapy, and balancing professional relationships with our personal lives. Every now and then, we'll even cover the happenings of how therapists are portrayed in pop culture.


    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Miranda Barker⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for over three years. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's currently the Director of Content and Production at Ellie Mental Health's in-house creative agency and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.


    The Therapist Thrival Guide is one of many creative productions from ⁠Ellie Mental Health⁠. Ellie is a national mental health brand organized around community-based outpatient mental health clinics. It all began with a single office in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 2015, and since then has expanded to over 24 clinics in Minnesota and an explosive number of locations nationwide after franchising our model in 2021. Ellie will be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide with new clinics opening each week. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    48 min