• PURSUING Safety and Courage with Jeremy Lundgren (ep. 67)
    Feb 18 2025

    On this episode of the podcast, I speak with Jeremy Lundgren about his new book on a theology of safety. It’s a conversation about the uniquely modern way that we pursue safety and what it means to hold the value of safety in tension with other virtues like courage, and in light of the call of discipleship. Among the topics we discuss:

    • On the “tokens of safety” that fill our world and what it says about our values
    • How Covid manifested and accelerated our pursuit of safety.
    • The history of our pursuit of safety in three stages: humanity against the gods, humanity against nature, and humanity against itself.
    • Three core elements of the modern pursuit of safety: predicting the future, using technology to control the material world, and developing uniform procedures to ensure safety.
    • How the call of discipleship situates and sometimes challenges the pursuit of safety
    • What Christian parents might hope for their children when it comes to safety

    Get the book: https://www.ivpress.com/the-pursuit-of-safety

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    49 mins
  • PAINTING Possibility and Pain with Matthew Doll (ep. 66)
    Feb 4 2025

    On this episode of the podcast, I have a live conversation with visual artist Matt Doll about art and faith. It’s a conversation that we got to have in front of a live audience of around 40 students. I found it energizing and inspiring, especially when Matt reads a poem part of the way through. Among the topics we discuss:

    • The sometimes fraught relationship between artists and the church and how we can do better
    • Why Christians may struggle with the arts
    • The relationship of creativity and limits
    • The process of making and whether it is more a matter of inspiration or "perspiration"
    • What artists need to hear from or about the church and what the church needs to hear from or about artists.

    Matthew Doll is a painter, graphic designer, gallery director, and has been the Program Director of the Gordon IN Orvieto semester program since 2011.

    More from Matt: https://matthew-doll.squarespace.com/

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    38 mins
  • TEACHING Christianly with David Mulder (ep. 65)
    Jan 21 2025

    On this episode of the podcast, we bring you a live interview in collaboration with the co-hosts of the Hallway Conversations podcast. Our featured guest is Dr. David Mulder, who has written a new book: Always Becoming, Never Arriving. This episode is a conversation about the craft of teaching and what it means to "teach Christianly". Among the topics we discuss:

    • Some of the biggest misconceptions and surprises about teaching
    • What it means to develop a "teaching imagination" and to say that teaching is a calling.
    • The relationship between play, improvisation, and technique in the classroom
    • How to take our work seriously without taking ourselves seriously
    • How to teach "who we are" while also taking into account what students need and what the material requires
    • Why most definitions of what it means to teach Christianly are incomplete

    Even if you're not working in Christian education, it's a great opportunity to look over the shoulder of a master teacher who is passionate about his craft.

    Get the book: https://www.drdavemulder.com/teaching-is-a-journey/

    David Mulder's website: https://www.drdavemulder.com/

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    40 mins
  • CONTINUING Calvin's Institutes with Dordt's Faculty (ep. 64)
    Jan 7 2025

    On this special bonus episode, I'm joined by two other members of the theology faculty to update our listeners on the Calvin's Institutes project, in which about 60 faculty and staff are spending the academic year reading through The Institutes of Christian Religion. At the midpoint of the journey, we took some time to reflect on our experiences thus far and to encourage readers to keep going. Among the topics we discussed:

    • What has stood out to us and our groups as we've read Calvin together
    • The most under-appreciated aspects of Calvin's theology
    • Why Calvin is known primarily for the doctrine of predestination even though it hasn't shown up yet in the reading
    • Favorite passages thus far
    • How Calvin's ideas show up concretely in Reformed churches and institutions
    • Encouragement for those who are finding the reading difficult to keep going

    Additional resources:

    Our original podcast discussion before starting the Institutes

    Our reading schedule: https://shorturl.at/Yow8x

    Calvin's Institutes (2 volume Battles edition)

    Calvin's Institutes (1 volume Beveridge edition)

    Calvin's Institutes online edition (CCEL/Beveridge)

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    34 mins
  • HOPING in the Dark with Norman Wirzba (ep. 63)
    Oct 29 2024

    On this episode of the podcast, I talk with Dr. Norman Wirzba about his new book, Love’s Braided Dance: Hope in a Time of Crisis. It’s a conversation about the nature of hope, especially in the midst of darkness, where no hope can seem to be found, and how learning to love moves us forward. Among the topics we discuss:

    • Why asking "what gives you hope?" may not be the best question and why "what do you love" is a better one
    • Why it is so important that hope reckons with evil in its most disheartening forms
    • Where joy might be found in the midst of the brokenness of the world
    • How we can fight the impulse of paralysis or exhaustion
    • The importance of recognizing our interdependence within creation
    • What it means to say that love is "improvisational" and a "dance"

    Get the book: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300272659/loves-braided-dance/

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    37 mins
  • CONTEXTUALIZING Tim Keller with Collin Hansen (ep. 62)
    Oct 16 2024

    On this episode of the podcast, I interview journalist and author Collin Hansen about his new book titled Tim Keller: His Spiritual and Intellectual Formation. The conversation explores a prominent model of evangelism and cultural engagement by a Reformed pastor in contemporary times. Among the topics we discuss:

    • The process of writing a different sort of biography of Tim Keller, focused on the people who influenced him
    • Notable influences on Keller's ministry, with familiar and unfamiliar names (Kathy Keller, Jonathan Edwards, C.S. Lewis, R.C. Sproul, Elizabeth Elliot, Ed Clowney, Jack Miller, Barbara Boyd)
    • What to make of the (recent) online backlash against Keller
    • An updated assessment of the "young, restless, and reformed" movement from the person who helped coin the term
    • The relationship of "Reformed" and "evangelical" and how they could be a source of renewal for each other
    • How the work of journalism might be redeemed as a way of telling stories about the way that God is at work in the world.

    Get the book: https://www.zondervan.com/9780310128700/timothy-keller/

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    44 mins
  • RELOCATING Calvin with Ruben Rosario Rodriguez (ep. 61)
    Oct 2 2024

    On this episode of the podcast, we talk with Dr. Ruben Rosario Rodriguez, about his new book Calvin for the World. Dr. Rosario makes what might be to some a surprising argument: that beyond the smaller circles where Calvin is revered, the real Calvin casts a capacious vision for our troubled times. Among the topics we discuss:

    • Dr. Rosario's story of his life with Calvin, and how Calvin made a difference growing up in Puerto Rico, studying in NY, pastoring in a rural community, and now teaching at a Jesuit University.
    • Assessing Calvin's legacy and responding to his detractors
    • "Liking" Calvin vs. respecting and appreciating Calvin
    • The parallels and divergences between Calvin and liberation theology
    • Calvin (and Calvinism) responding to the experience of exile and the phenomenon of refugees
    • Calvin's transnational ecclesiology and what we can learn from him today

    Get the book: https://bakeracademic.com/p/calvin-for-the-world-rub-n-rosario-rodr-guez/553612

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    44 mins
  • CLAIMING the Courageous Middle with Shirley Mullen (ep. 60)
    Sep 18 2024

    On this episode of the podcast, we talk with Dr. Shirley Mullen about book Claiming the Courageous Middle: Daring to Live and Work Together for a more Hopeful Future. Drawing from over four decades of experience in Christian higher education, Dr. Mullen explores what it means to be called to the middle, especially in times of deep polarization. Among the topics we discuss:

    • What it means to say that the middle can be a place of courage, imagination, and hope
    • When "not fitting anywhere" can be a gift and a calling
    • Christian universities as middle spaces and the responsibility to steward trust while embracing complexity
    • Counsel for teachers in the classroom and for the local church

    Get the book: https://bakeracademic.com/p/Claiming-the-Courageous-Middle-Shirley-A-Mullen/542817

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    54 mins