Joel Graber of Modern Outbound and Modern Inbound joins us on the Surf and Sales podcast to discuss why only 8% of outsourced sales team succeed. Understanding the difference between the modern approach to outbound in 2025 vs something old school. For example being driven by people on your team and then build the process before before building the process and then adding the people What are you waiting for? Time to reserve your spot at www.surfandsales.com