John questions the morality of sneaking in outside candy to the movies. Meanwhile, Jonnie joins the podcast remotely from snowy Michigan and tells the history of the phrase “innocent until proven guilty.”

Plus, a conversation about "The Pottery Class Paradox” and why making a lot of things is better than obsessing over perfection.

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John gets his wisdom teeth out and experiences time travel. Meanwhile, Jonnie searches for a loyal dog and shares historical facts about Thanksgiving.

Plus, a conversation about Job and the two-word answer God gives to every prayer.

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John ponders whether AI will take our podcasting jobs and hates when his favorite shows "jump the shark.” Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a WAY too firm handshake from an audience member and gets suspicious of the woman who survived 3 famous ship disasters

Plus, a conversation about Sanctification, Niceness, and why we are (hopefully) falling down an up escalator.

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John's standing desk goes rogue and he learns a musical use for Super Glue. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals why the sandwich was invented and tells the tale of the exploding whale in Oregon.

Plus, a conversation about giving, receiving, and a perspective of gratitude.

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John finds his bald band of brothers and hopes he eventually gets a recliner. Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a famous golf destination and reveals yet another 80's political scandal that is just adorable by today's standards.

Plus, a conversation about winning the culture war and losing our way.

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John takes an "L" when he issues a snarky retraction about typewriters and brags about his ability to worry. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns a troubling fact about pillows and hopes he'll be a new man in 7 years.

Plus, a conversation about how grace goes against our urge to achieve approval.

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John gets over his fear of needles and gets emotional listening to Guns N Roses. Meanwhile, Jonnie figures out his eyes are failing while hanging out with a younger person and tells us about the time a man took his wife on a balloon ride 11 miles up.

Plus, a conversation about the death of nuance, and why the internet has turned our conversations into shouting matches.

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John reminisces on his childhood days as a pool shark and tells us why he is a prisoner in his own mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides minivans aren't so bad and begins a frantic search for an audience member who used a funny alias at his show (and then had a serious thing happen to him).

Plus, a conversation about truth, propaganda, and why we really hope there's a generation coming that will reject social media.

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