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Last week on the podcast, we explored the global growth of the WNOW movement (click here to go bak and listen), and in this episode, we’re taking a closer look at the local stories of men in Australia. Co-founder Dave Eccles, and our podcast Wizard, Thomas, woke up early to join the Wednesday morning meet-up at the Maroubra and Bondi Chapters, chatting with the men who gather each week to be part of WNOW.

In this episode Andrew, Dave and the guys from WNOW discuss:

4:00 Chris growing up coming from privilege and his journey in recognising that, struggling with isolation but finding solace in WNOW and what makes WNOW unique in its ability to get men to drop their body armour.

14:30 Why Tony (Monty) Burns moved to Australia, the connection with role models that Monty gets from WNOW and finding himself as a better person every Wednesday morning after WNOW.

20:00 Gary’s rough upbringing and traumatic work past, how Gary used to deal with his emotional problems and the benefits Gary gets from dropping his body armour at WNOW.

29:00 Donncha’s journey to dropping his body armour after getting his cancer diagnosis, learning to live in the present and enjoy the now and how Donncha has seen WNOW change people’s lives.

36:15 How Tom came to accept his more sensitive side after his mental health declined, how Tom fell away from WNOW and then came back and some of the reasons Tom loves coming to WNOW.

45:00 Rob’s identity crisis coming out of COVID and how WNOW helped him find himself, falling back in love with fitness and exercise and how coming to WNOW has even helped Rob’s kids.

56:15 Sonny’s love for the community WNOW has given him in Bondi, Sonny’s realisation that he needed the connection that WNOW brings and how WNOW helps Sonny set up his day for success.

You can find WNOW at their Website: https://www.wnow.com.au/
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In this Bite Size from episode #95 Matty Lansdown walks us through the steps he would take when coaching someone to deal with their emotional eating, Matty explains that to begin with you don’t have to make any changes, just build a bit of self awareness.

Matty then sheds a bit of light on his traumatic past and how he has come to this method of helping people lose weight and control their emotional eating after facing his trauma and overcoming it.

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The phenomenal expansion of WNOW is rapid, growing from a humble start to 35 groups of men with international growth in sight 🌏

WNOW is a community of men who meet weekly to support each other in a fun way and explore what it means to be a better man, tackling challenges together and focusing on improving their mental, physical, and emotional health to be the best role model they can be for themselves and all those around them.

Founders, Tadhg Kennelly and Dave Eccles, emphasize the power of media and leveraging past achievements to drive awareness for essential causes.

Listen to the full episode to discover the inspiring journey of WNOW and how you can get involved.

In this Episode Andrew and the boys from WNOW discuss:

2:00 Tadhg’s recent trip to Europe, the phenomenal growth of WNOW and Tadhg feeling comfortable using his name to promote a cause.

7:30 Dave’s commitment to being a vegetarian, Tadhg’s interview about WNOW on channel 7 and a recap of how WNOW started.

15:00 The growing loneliness stats, how Tadhg had to shift his identity after retiring from playing and then losing his job and trying to connect more with his Mum.

24:30 Dave’s astonishment by the amount of different people they get at WNOW, their aspiration for WNOW to be the largest men’s health charity in the world and overcoming people telling them they can’t do this.

31:00 WNOW looking for a big sponsor to help spread the message, an update on Andrew’s dad and why men have trouble saying I love you.

41:20 Why Steve set up a WNOW chapter in the US, the purpose of WNOW being it’s beating heart and church is currently the only other community available to many small town Americans.

48:10 Why Hamish’s WNOW chapter in New Zealand is so successful, the tragic backstory of why it started and feeling like you’re a part of something much bigger.

54:30 Starting a WNOW chapter in Ireland after resonating with the message of dropping your body armour, how Steven plans on growing the chapter through community engagement and why WNOW is like a women’s group but for men.

You can find WNOW at their Website: https://www.wnow.com.au/
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In this Bite Size from episode #96 original yellow Wiggle Greg Page joins the podcast and talks about how after years of performing on stage and screen he was able to form a personal identity separate from how he appeared when performing.

Greg also explains a bit about how the psychic medium John Edwards was a key part of helping him form that identity and lead him to a greater understanding of his own spirituality and where he saw his place in the universe.

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Ken Robertson is the Senior Enlisted Advisor to the Chief of Defence Force Australia and is on the podcast this week sharing his journey from a disciplined military background to realising the importance of authenticity in leadership. He reflects on how his competitive nature and ego initially hindered his relationships and career, and how an intervention by friends and family prompted him to change.

In this episode Andrew, Angela Poon and Ken discuss:

3:30 Ken growing up just outside of Perth, Joining the military after watching Top Gun and Ken’s dad and careers advisor pushing him to join a more disciplined organisation.

08:45 Ken’s advice for anyone wanting to join the military, what it is that makes the military feel like a family and why Ken feels it is important to have a social media presence.

20:00 Ken’s transformation from ego to authenticity, the dangers of white line fever spilling into the rest of your life and the intervention his friends and family staged to challenge his competitive nature.

29:00 Where you can start if you want to make similar changes to Ken, seeking honest feedback from people who don’t like you and doing something uncomfortable to grow.

36:00 Appreciation for military's evolving focus on emotional intelligence and social mastery, contrasting with its past disregard, the importance of healthy conflict and what Ange thought of Andrew when they first started working together.

48:00 Leaders need to realise they’re not the expert at everything, creating an environment where people can talk openly and the challenge the military has with feedback in a rigid command structure.

54:30 Ken’s thoughts on the concept of leadership vs followership, how Ken strives to control his emotions and his interest in studying health and wellbeing.

1:04:30 Ken’s imposter syndrome, how he manages to balance work and family life and how Ken uses his drive time to practise shifting his state.

1:13:00 finding ways of communicating effectively with younger generations in the workplace, how Andrew and Ange would improve the militaries recruitment process and you have to work hard for the good things.

1:23:40 Combatting loneliness in the military, the military has changed a lot in 30 years and why Ken believes in giving blood regularly.

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In this Bite Size from episode #90 neuroscientist Dr Sarah McKay talks about why she thinks society should be more forgiving of teenagers and their behaviour as they grow and learn.

Dr Sarah compares teenagers going through puberty to newborn infants, why do are we so accepting of children learning and making mistakes while their bodies and brain develop but we don’t afford that same courtesy to teenagers going through something very similar.

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In this episode we dive deep with Australian swimming legend, Michael Klim! 🏅
In 17 years of world-class swimming, Michael broke 21 world records and competed in three Olympic Games, winning six medals, including two golds. Since 2020, Michael has been in the fight of his life, living with chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), a rare autoimmune disorder that causes chronic pain, loss of sensation, and muscle weakness, particularly in his legs.

Michael has just released a new book called Klim, sharing his journey of resilience, reinvention, and purpose. And it’s not the normal type of book an athlete writes when they finish competing – it is deep, it is reflective, it is sometimes emotional, it is raw, it is real. Michael told me writing this book has been a big part of his healing journey. "I was in denial about what I was about to embark on and...a sense of grief because I was losing an identity that was probably very dear to me and one that I relied on...my entire life...that was slowly being taken away..."

Michael recently founded the Klim Foundation to support others with CIDP and to promote research for new treatments. He lives in Bali with his partner Michelle and their three children, Stella, Rocco, and Frankie.

In this episode Andrew and Michael discuss:

4:20 The unexpected turn Michael’s life has taken since 2020, an explanation of CIPD and Michael’s life up until his diagnosis.

11:50 Some of Michael’s swimming regrets and how he took some of the wrong lessons into business, how Michael’s Dad influenced his life and why Michael felt out of place as a child.

17:40 Michael’s Dad’s way of dealing with bullies, how Michael feels about some of his missed gold medal chances and the infamous Daniel Kowalski and Kieren Perkins story from Michael’s perspective.

26:20 How Michael came about his diagnosis and learned to live with it, how Michael dealt with the loss of his physicality based identity and some of the ways Michael rebuilt his identity.

39:30 How Michael wrote his book with the help of a journalist, talking to the Australian Olympic team before Paris and learning to put your hand up and ask for help.

51:30 What Michael sees when he looks in the mirror, how Michael accepted the change in his future and a touching moment Michael had teaching children at his swim school.

58:15 Michael finding his purpose, the wheel of wellbeing and what Michael would say to someone going through similar challenges.

1:06:25 How Michael rebuilt his connection with his kids, where Michael sees himself in 5 years and where you can find him.

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In this Bite Size from episode #91 Globetrotting NRL superstar Shaun Lane recalls some of the fantastic advice he was given by 3 different high performers and coaches across Europe who, while they are involved in different sports are also full of knowledge that can help his NRL skills.

Shaun also talks about Owen Eastwood who, while Shaun wasn’t able to interview him, has provided a huge insight into the culture of his fellow Pacifica players and how he can better relate to them.

You can find Shaun at his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slane_94/?hl=en

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